Blog Note: We in the game of intelligence can be so in-human at times it frightens even Thai Intel and how we use people to reach objectives and forgetting that apart from all our extreme prejudices in killing off our enemies-there are also the family of our enemies.
Thai Intel’s sources inside the Thai prison that had held Bout for so long tells Thai Intel of a Bouts family visiting Bout everyday-and often leaves the Thai prison with tears in their eyes.
“No” all that crap in the Thai newspaper about Bout’s family seldom visiting him are nothing but lies and propaganda-cooked up by the Thai government and its in-controlled justice system.
Clearly, even as the Thai national security apparatus coming out to say that Russia is OK with Bout’s being extradited to the US, the fact is that US and Russia have been in contact on the Bout issue-but most likely the Thai national security apparatus is just cooking up the opinion for Thai public consumption.
As Thai Intel have earlier quoted an intelligence source that Bout came to Thailand to help the highest powers at be in Thailand acquire advance submarines-apparently, in all of this Bout negotiations-the country that have lost out is Thailand own interest.
“Yes” potentially Obama could have cut a deal with the Thai military and its intelligence apparatus. What that will result in, if a deal was made, will likely strengthens the Thai military-thus resulting in more oppressions of the Thai people.
Indeed, as the US Senate had said about a month after the Thai military cracked down on the protesters that killed about 100 protesters and landing about another 2,000 in the hospital-that Thailand is a “Strong Ally” of the US. There is no way to translate what the US Senate said but that the Thai military is an ally of the US-and thus the killing is OK.
The sheer number of family members of the Thais who lost their lives at the hand of the Thai military must be in the 1,000s.
Thai Intel just wants to say, to the family of Victor Bout, that we are heart-felt saddened by what is occurring-and we are sorry to hear that the extradition went so quickly, not even the family of Bout was informed.
America have changes a great deal from the old days, but when it comes to the game of intelligence and national security-when will America learn that there is no way of winning against the tyrants of the world by becoming an animal like the tyrants.
Like seriously speaking, is there any difference at all between America peddling arms and deals to a junta like the Thai military and Victor Bout peddling arms globally?
Thai Intel means just look at the weapons that murdered the Thai protesters-like they are Americans or what?
The Following is from Xinhua:
Moscow demands access to extradited arms dealer
MOSCOW, Nov. 16 (Xinhua) — Russia has asked the United States for immediate consular access to the allegedly Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout, who will be brought to the U.S. from Thailand within several hours, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Tuesday.
“We insist on immediate consular access to Viktor Bout. He is a citizen of Russia, so he must enjoy every right of every Russian citizen in trouble. These rights must be honored,” he was quoted by Itar-Tass news agency as saying.
“The extradition of Bout resulted from massive political pressure Washington had put on Thai authorities,” Ryabkov said
The minister said earlier Tuesday that the extradition of the acquitted person has been “irrational, unexplainable and unjustified.”
Bout was accused of arms trafficking and terrorism by the United States. He was arrested in Bangkok in March, 2008 by a U.S. warrant. The Thai court has acquitted Bout twice over lack of evidence.
The Following is from Global Security:
The “Lord of War” Arrives on U.S. Shores
Posted by Nikolas K. Gvosdev
Why is Moscow so upset about the extradition of Viktor Bout, the infamous “Merchant of Death” and “Lord of War”, from Thailand?
I try to address this question over at The National Interest. Some points:
Russia is often caught between competing and contradictory interests. Its weapons industry is one of the most profitable sources of export revenue for the country. Like the United States and a number of European countries, Russia is a leader in the sale of all sorts of military technology. But some of Russia’s actual and potential customers may not be able to purchase openly or directly–especially due to sanctions. The Russian government took a major financial “hit” by agreeing not to sell the S-300 air-defense system to Iran. Russia has also had to fend off criticism for weapons sales to countries like Syria and Sudan. The administration of Dmitry Medvedev, in working to advance the “reset” with Barack Obama, has taken steps that have had an impact on the country’s bottom line.
Is the concern about Bout’s extradition into U.S. jurisdiction, therefore, that Bout, under interrogation, will reveal “proprietary” information as to the ways in which sanctions regimes can be bypassed? The manner in which Russian intelligence develops “plausible deniability” for when Russian military equipment ends up in places that it shouldn’t? Dmitry Zaks, writing for Agence France Press, quoted two Russian experts on the matter: “Bout can reveal too much about who took part in the shadowy arms sales and when he was doing it,” said Institute of Strategic Assessment head Alexander Konovalov. “Bout is a person who knows an extraordinary amount about arms contracts,” agreed Alexei Makarkin of the Centre of Political Technologies.
Some of this too can just be a sense of embarrassment. As Russia seeks to position itself for taking a greater share of the global military market, forging new ties with European conglomerates and trying to develop new contracts, having Bout back on the front pages is a reminder of “the bad old days” of the 1990s. And, by having failed to prevent Thailand from extraditing Bout to the United States, Moscow has received an unwelcome reminder that, despite its resurgence and the problems that the United States itself is undergoing, there is no equal contest between Moscow and Washington when America can bring the full weight of its influence to bear on a problem. Despite all the talk of a multipolar world and the decline of the United States, the reality of the Bout extradition is that Washington still wields a predominant influence in the global arena. No wonder, then, that the deputy chair of the Duma’s International Affairs Committee, Leonid Slutsky, complained, “The United States is now trying to dictate its position on the entire system of global politics and international relations.”
- Thai government agrees to extradite Viktor Bout to the US (rt.com)
- Thailand suffers Bout of insanity (rt.com)
- Russian rage at Bout extradition (bbc.co.uk)
- Thai government agrees to Viktor Bout’s extradition (rt.com)
- Thailand Extradites Alleged Russian Arms Dealer to US (waronterrornews.typepad.com)
- Thailand extradites alleged arms dealer Bout to U.S. (ctv.ca)
- Thailand extradites ‘Merchant of Death’ to US (lookatvietnam.com)
- “Merchant of Death” Headed for U.S. Justice (cbsnews.com)
- US braces for Russian backlash over arms suspect (seattletimes.nwsource.com)
- Thailand extradites Russian arms suspect to U.S. (reuters.com)